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This week's episode is brought to you by better help. They offer licensed therapists who specialize in issues like depression, anxiety and trama. You can connect privately with your therapist on regular phone or video calls. Eric van sabil is an oceanographer at utrecht university in the netherlands. But that wasn't his initial plan - he wanted to be a weather man.

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