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Surviving Dirty John w/ Debra Newell Pt. 1

Navigating Narcissism with Dr. Ramani

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How Did You Believe in Fairy Tales?

"I kept making mistakes, thinking they're a great guy," Deborah says of her five husbands. "How were you able to believe in fairy tales after all the really difficult things that happen in your life? I have no idea", she adds. 'Don't shame yourself from being married five times,' CNN's John Sutter tells his co-host.

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