"I think it's about the repetition and then also game of fine what we're learning," he says. "So surrender goes two ways for me. One is a top down surrender, where I'm absolving myself to the greater and omniscient love and intelligence that I just refer to as God." The bottom up way of surrender if that's too unattainable may be in the micro-surrenders when things don't go according to my plan or prefer them to go.

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