
485 | Big Brains Raising Little Brains with Liz Angoff, PhD
ADHD reWired
How to Deal With Screen Addiction
Gibson: "It's hard to leave my screens. I think part of what's behind it is, I think we are really like dealing with the genuine screen addiction" He asks his mom if she can insta-card everything so that he doesn't have to pay for things on a credit card. She says yes and they'll figure out a way to make this work.
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Speaker 2
I'd be like, just in the security tab, just insta-card it.
Speaker 1
So that's a really good idea. Gibson, my other concern is about money. And insta-card, there's an additional fee there. So if we insta-carded everything, we'd go broke really quick and I wouldn't be able to buy you any toys. So that's like great idea, but we gotta keep thinking. And also my other concern is that like, when it's hard for us to get out of the house, I get frustrated, you get frustrated and then we get into a big ball of frustration and nobody's happy. And then an outing that could be okay, I'm not saying it's gonna be fun, it could have been okay, turns into an outing that is awful and horrible and we both hate it and neither one of us is happy. So I wonder if there's a way that we can help you with the things that we're challenging for you and maybe like, I don't know, what do you think he would say that's hard to go to the store?
Speaker 2
He just doesn't wanna leave the house. It's hard for me to go. I think part of what's behind it is, I think we are really like dealing with the genuine screen addiction. It's hard to leave my screens. Yeah, that is, it is, I mean, that's, when he said to me, he wanted to drop out a band, like when we should have talked about it, it was because he wants screen time in the morning. Yeah. And so I was like, thank you for sharing that. That is not gonna be a reason that you are gonna be able to drop out a band. Like that is actually gonna be a reason that I'm going to insist you continue to go to bed.
Speaker 1
So I'd be really curious, like, okay, so what is it about screen time that's hard to end it? Can you tell me more about what's going on? And like, can we figure out, is it harder in this circumstance than other circumstances? Like what's going on for you? What really makes it challenging? Because then we might be able to figure out a way to, as I said, to do a win-win. So screen time is often is important for a lot of kids. And for a lot of neurodivergent kids, it's their downtime where no one's asking anything of them and they're in complete control. And giving them spaces for that is so critical. But it's hard for them to leave it because any kind of state change is hard. And now you're asking me to leave something that feels so good to go do something
Speaker 2
that is probably gonna be like, met to awful.
In today’s show, Eric is joined by Liz Angoff! Liz is a licensed educational psychologist with a diplomate in school neuropsychology, providing assessment and consultation services to children and their families in the Bay area. She is the author of the Brain Building Books and is constantly creating new tools to help parents and providers empower children to help them understand their unique brains. Learn more about Liz and her books at brainbuidingbook.com! In this episode, you’ll hear about Liz’s mission to help neurodiverse kids understand and create their personal narratives, how parents can understand their kids better, how Liz has found purpose through her own anxiety, and using affirming language to communicate. Then, you’ll hear about the importance of articulating and communicating intentions, engaging in self-awareness conversations with kids, acknowledging parent-guilt, when hyper-verbalism and auditory processing collide, transitions, screen time, and more! Find more from Liz at Questions/Topics: [00:02.08] Introducing Liz [00:04:10] Having conversations with kids about their diagnoses & [00:06:38] Liz shares her diagnosis story and her experiences with sensory overwhelm [00:10:11] Eric asks Liz about self-disclosure when talking to parents and kids [00:19:24] Exploring the neurodivergent home of Eric Tivers and problem-solving at home [00:22:31] Identifying the problem and how to better understand a child’s experiences [00:29:02] Iterating: Experimentation, evaluation, and assessment [00:31:42] Addressing concerns as a parent and needs as an adult [00:33:51] Worrying about our kids growing up into adults; What-ifs, jumping to conclusions, and catastrophizing [00:37:22] Eric opens up about what happens at home [00:39:26] The importance of relearning and reintegrating skills when reaching milestones [00:41:58] Transitions, outings, and screen time [00:48:26] Closing thoughts from Liz Resources & Honorable Mentions: Eric’s episode with his son - 483: Neurodivergence Runs in the Family Book: The Explosive Child by Ross W. Greene, Ph.D Website: Collaborative & Proactive Solutions - Ross Greene, Ph.D at www.cpsconnection.com 🌟 Have you heard about our Adult Study Hall Community? Go to adultstudyhall.com to join our ADHD-friendly body-doubling community! 🌟 Interested in group coaching and want to take your ADHD management to the next level? Go to coachingrewired.com to get all the up-to-date information on the upcoming season of ADHD reWired's award-winning Coaching & Accountability groups!