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HELEN LEWIS: On slaying Jordan Peterson + declining Andrew Tate

Wild with Sarah Wilson

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Russell Brand: The Quintessential Celebrity?

I was a guest on his podcast under the skin in 2019. I find him incredibly fascinating. How did he explode to 6.2 million followers and looking like Jesus Christ? He is, to my mind, the kind of quintessential celebrity. Narcissism is a very big help because if it's narcissism, you can constantly talk about yourself so you never run out of material. You have to have a score in very particular ways on a lot of characteristic traits to be able to thrive in this space.

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