Are We Being Labeled?

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Social psychology suggests that the best way to engage with each other is to emphasize a common identity. In politics, we continue to treat politics purely as us against them. But in everyday life, it doesn't have to be a zero sum game. One of my students was born and raised in mississippi; she's an african american hippop artist. She wanted that confederate era symbolism wiped because it was a reminder of the terror that her own family has experienced. Her grandfather actually, was murdered by the k k k. A young lady launched an incendiary protest against the mississippi state flag on a stage at a concert in new york city. The photo went viral

Irshad Manji has a lot of experience in trying to persuade those who really don’t want to be persuaded.

Early in her career, Irshad wrote two influential books that advocated for a reformed Islam. In conversations with religious conservatives around the world, she found that a combative style did not help her win adherents for her cause; instead, she started to acknowledge their views—before proudly arguing for her own. Now, Irshad runs the Moral Courage project, a pedagogical approach that hopes to make progress on contested issues like racism without shaming its participants.

On the latest episode of The Good Fight, Yascha Mounk talks to Irshad about why we should not judge those who disagree with us; how we can hope to persuade them of our own positions; and why we should be more optimistic about America’s future than is now fashionable.

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