How to Stay Positive in a Difficult Time

Mauricio Bochatino made a distinction between footballers and the human being behind it. It reminded me of an interview I did many years ago with Angel O'odham Day, who was the trainer of Muhammad Ali and Sugar Ray Leonard. He said he worked with men that just happen to fight - which is what Mauricio does too. And you can see why that engender such loyalty and commitment from people. As you say, we're living in really quite unusual times,. Damien's advice to anybody that's listening to this podcast is be kind. That starts by being kind to ourselves.