The Interplay of History and Business and Politics

Eric Schmitz: In 2016 2017 we have this ICO boom, where all these crypto projects. Initial point offering it was your first your your basically our first crypto sector guest other than biology. And what I hope there to your example and Carlotta Perez has some great stuff on the on just sort of this cycles of infrastructure is that what we get there as well. So for the project, it'll be a lot of infrastructure that has been that has been layered such that 5 years from now, 10 years from now,. there's not just a boom on the currency side, but on the true decentralized Internet on the browser level and social media perspective. That's the layer of the stack.