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Saving Time Is For Suckers with Jenny Odell

Factually! with Adam Conover

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How to Have a Good Conversation

I think it's important to not see time as this like linear, foregone conclusion type of thing. In the book, I compare it to trying to imagine having a conversation with someone before you've actually had it. You're always going to be imagining it, standing from where you are at that particular moment,. Having not progressed any amount into the conversation. Which is why when you have a good one, like you always end up somewhere that you didn't expect and that has so much to do with the other person. It's possible to hold in your mind the fact that certain things we know will get worse and a heart and more difficult. But that's not the same thing as knowing

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