Ilka's paid public speaking is her main choice. She gives 30 minute action oriented briefings to smallop s of 20 people, cross functionally. So i say, get specific sooner, and we practise those things very quick so the groups bond. And then one on one 20 minute coaching sessions. Do that through seven in a series. Ironically, those groups become so tightly a bonded, because they've learned it together. They can talk in shorthand go slow to go fast,. Get specific sooner, a sidl don't stand in the face off that.

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