Introduction

This is the jocko unravelling podcast, episode 34 with darrel cooper and me. Clearly, right now, ukrane is big. The date is may sixth. And everything that you and i are about to say, i'm going to make this disclaimer. You can, you can deny, you can not use this disclaimer if you want to. But right now, it's hard to figure out exactly what's going on because the propaganda and information warfare coming from both sides is strong. There's so much. I never see anthing like it in in a conflict. Where the information environment is so polluted, it's really hard to get any grasp of what's