In India, there's a real continuity in many areas. There's no question about the continuity of landscape management. So when they make a change there, it's a permanent change. I don't totally know how Native American people had landscape divisions in part because there was a great fracturing. Like the sacred hoop was broken. Many, there was like a genocide, basically. And right now, the native tribes still exist are,. you know, they had this deep disruption in their history, not too long ago.

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