Franklin: I think some people are starting to realize we don't live in the magical rainbow unicorn world that we've sort of been dreaming in for the last 30 years. It's been a great few decades for actually most of the world, frankly. But you have to be willing to stand up for it - and we haven't been so far," he says. "This is very much a grown up issue. And our children or people who behave childishly are not going to be in a position to give a lead"

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