There's a bit of vulnerability in that though, right? And I think that's maybe why some people don't, they come in with that close fist because if the other person isn't reciprocal to that, they can use that information against you potentially. So there's, we haven't done our work. But also, I think if you really do your work and you understand how conversations work based on stories and getting hooked on them and all that and the fist fighting,. If you do that work, opposite what you said, I think we have a leg up on a conversation.

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