It was probably within the first couple of years that I had been at Benchmark. It's just a beautiful, I mean, a screenshot, any frame and you can put it up above your firehouse. So he came in and he did this pitch to the partnership where he basically talked the whole time. He didn't talk about the game he wanted to make at all. And he finished this thing and he walked out and I literally ducked because I thought that the blast radius from my partners like saying, what are you doing bringing this into the partnership?

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