152. Putin, Producer Logic and Peak Demand with Kingsmill Bond
Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast
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Energy Efficiency
Bob Greene and kingsmill sit down for a chat. What did you both take from that conversation? I think he's a super i mean, you know, i'd really disliked pretending to be the awful person that henjoydi o made such a convincin a ha oyou just stepped into that roll so convincingly. But look, no, is completely nailed. He actually said after the interview, in anemal to us that ar that he hadn't emphasized enough that covid was away to drive change. Let's not make the mistake again, he said.
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