
20th Anniversary celebration with the most memorable guests: Jason Reynolds, Marina Abramović, Chris Ware, Richard Saul Wurman, Rick Rubin, and Roxane Gay
Design Matters with Debbie Millman
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Rubin on hip hop's DJ-centric roots
Rick explains hip hop's emphasis on the DJ, montage, and human performance shaping the genre's innovation.
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