# 574 - Peter Atencio & Cale Boyter (The Machine Director/Producer)
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The Costing of a Big Dinner
"It was the funnest experience I've ever had in my life," Jared says. "I didn't think I'd ever give a fuck about it." He adds that he and Kale have learned to be more honest with each other, which has been hard but worth it.
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