"I don't set goals no goals goals honestly I'm a I'm a routine guy I'm a behavior guy," says Jack. "It's not really about you don't think you need to strive for a certain result in order to achieve it It feels like you're just so married to the process and you can divorce the outcome", he adds. 'The C students that that worked their tail off in class and they get a C like that that's what they get'

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