Sam, Listen to This From Augustine in the City of God

i think that's some of what jill is going to segway into in a moment. jo joe epidomizes this as he cares for communities and churches leaders like you guys, but then sits out on his porch and is quiet before the lord and swims in the lake. You know, this, this is a very ancient rithm. And i know some of you love the theory, so you're like, getting off on this, and others of you are like, what's bat this stuff gets really practical? We have budget sheets and programmes and training and all the rest of it. It's like, you know, adammaus, right now, we