Is the World Leader in Marketing Things to People?

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I was struck by your coverage of, you talk about how in many European countries, tax is automatically calculated by the government. I think that we've had such a system here, it would ensure that families got the benefits they needed and paid their taxes. And so those two things make complete sense to me. It just seems too inexpensive and efficient.

RUFUS GRISCOM: Could you share with us your broader mission and how your new book, “Poverty, by America,” supports that mission?

MATTHEW DESMOND: I want to end poverty. I want to be part of the movement that’s growing around the country not to treat it but to cure it, not to reduce it but to abolish it. And I say that because we can. We can, as a country, put an end to all this scarcity and deprivation in our midst.