Introduction

Mario Vargas Llosa: I'm very grateful to be here and I admire you. You must be doing something right for one simple reason, that today's media is exclusionary. If you go a little bit towards the direction which is not, which is not really not tolerated by those who nonetheless dominate the public space, you can be excluded. We know without making any compromises, I'm talking about you,. But interviewed you three years ago, it feels like a different year. It was on the roof of the Guardian, the sun was shining, we got a tax pay helicopter, I don't know if you remember that.