Jars of clay was pulled like they were the number one, you know, band and christian music. And they were just totally blackballed because, o gosh, ya casas yats a question. So we did this episode filmda, it was very emotionally charged for me in a way that was very surprising. Because i'm finaly living as myself and being honest, and i feel like i can be open with my parents about things. I've always been writing usic, but i've been focusing on hosting and unscripted documentary work for a while. All that work dried up overnight, seemingly, because you can't travel and host a doc series about religion