The Heart Sutra and Suzuki Roshi's Teaching Non-Bialism

"I studied the heart sutra along with Suzuki Roshi's teaching non-bialism and he starts by saying our practice should be without gaining ideas," she says. "This whole notion of not gaining in relationship to form an emptiness." She adds that as a black person who was taught to go out and gain, it is hard for her to accept this new way of thinking.