Is There a Relevance Difference Between a Designer Manipulator and an Agent in the Background?

In the manipulation, nary you gave whether or not diana was the one who created his zigo. It seems like all the things that matter to his control over the action are the same across those two cases. So i find it very hard to believe that adding in this agent, whe the call them a designer manipulator., makes a difference to responsibility. And o and, i mean, if you've got god in the picture, and your imagining he could be decreeing everything that happens, i think you can say that m the soft line is going to work. But in the case where there's just a designer setting things up, i don't see it is making a difference