Tim worked with Steve Jobs closely for 12 years. Tim is also the expert in brand experience, experience design, even architecture and things like that. Henry: I'm looking forward really to the conversation today and hope that we can learn a lot of things about experience design, brand experience and how to implement that in technology. Hey thank you it's great to be here Henry. So what are some of the turning points or major success that you have had in your career so far? Sure sure well just briefly I founded our company now 30 years ago in San Francisco. We were probably best known for the work with Apple.

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