We've put tens of billions of dollars of support, financial support, into ukraine. Probably not enough, cause ukranes in a parlor state. Put sweeping sanctions on russia. None of its really worked. It's really quite galling to think if one tenth of that political energy had been devoted to the problem beforehanda presumeably, it would have deterred putin and this wouldn't have happened. But bummy besically we know that, you know, kind of, they will keep on pooting,. And people around him as an operative will keep on trying.
We welcome back Fiona Hill, the foreign affairs and national security expert, to discuss Putin, foreign policy, and what could lie ahead for the war in Ukraine. Hill has been an advisor to three US Presidents and is former Senior Director for Europe and Russia at the United States National Security Council. She is author of books including Mr. Putin: Operative in the Kremlin, and There is Nothing For You Here, which she joined us to discuss earlier in 2022. She returns to give us the latest on the ongoing war and assess what Vladimir Putin's next move might be, joined in conversation by Edward Lucas, the writer, author and European and transatlantic security specialist.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices