Are You Using Version Control?

Some of the things that were so like new or appealing about agile, I think just like the good, the most effective, the good parts, like just became table stakes everywhere. And so it kind of like lost its affiliation with agile. Now you'd almost like, maybe you could in some weird cheeky, like anti-counter culture way, like be like, yeah, we still do manual deploys as like selling point for your company and something.