The Evolution of the Mobile Robot Market

Victor: What we really see is also a shift from traditional AGV companies that really put out products, which puts pressure into the market. And what we see is that you have almost like a Lego system where you combine like one software like a software for operation of the robot. So there's not such big premium for the software. But to be fair, I mean, like we also still quite far away from that one, right? Because adoption is still so low and you have all those companies that are in the market that are not really proven yet.