I've Been in Serious Battles of the Will With Irwin Jacobs

I've been in serious battles with Irwin Jacobs. He was on the phone screaming at me about something when he was a kid, when he was in grammar school. And I said, your dad's a very bad man. So that was circa kind of 2000. Last year, last year, 17, Max and I were in Minneapolis to see Southside John and the Asbury Jukes. And I call her, we're coming by your office because we made peace by then. We go by his office and I give him a big hug, take a picture. And Irwin goes, "Max, yes. What I said about your dad was wrong" But if you mess up,