Chatter, with Rolling Stone's Noah Shachtman
The Lawfare Podcast
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I Feel Like Our Politics Could Use a Real, Kind of Old School Internationalist
Wel nouve: Name one dead political or national security related leader from any era that we could really use now, if you could reanimate. Ball: I feel like our politics could really use a george h w bush right now because it feels like all we've got are these kind of mushy liberals,. You know, fiery leftus and neophacius. And i don't share his politics or his world view necessarily at all but he was basically somebody who who who talked sense and who had had a bit of decency to him.
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