Hieren: It sounds like such a wonderful game. Sir, important ethical questions to be asking ourselves. And everything. Well, i am so glad that you got recommended for the show and you responded to my invitation to come on. What a joy it's been,. not just to get to talk to you to day, but also just to follow your work. I'm going to, of course recommend that people go, as you said, you use all the toolshat also go follow you on all the placeso wil, we havea mainla in the show notes. So much for listening, and i'll see you next time. Caa ma.