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Episode 206: Celebrities for Jesus (feat. Katelyn Beaty)

Becoming Something with Jonathan Pokluda

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The Importance of Being Quiet and Ordinary

Donna Brazile: I think it's part of our American consumeristic culture DNA to think that if you have a platform, your church is growing, you have spiritual wisdom to share with others that you should automatically write a book. Do you think do you think pastors or ministers of the gospel should be authors or right? "I'm saying this to myself asking, okay, if, if God were to take this all away, how would I feel about that?" she says.

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