"We were born with a seed inside us you know with this sense of humor or sense of whatever it is and all we have to do is find that," he says. "Joseph Campbell said follow your bliss which sounds like a phony baloney bumper stick or mantra but it's really trueYeah what do you love what makes you feel great and follow it and that aligns with what you were given so Richard Roy says the the meaning of life is to humbly and proudly I like that because it's a paradox humbly and Proudly return what you've been given right okay?" 'There are Kim Kardashian levels of all these different places but we don't we don't see them modeled,'