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Asaf Lubin on Regulating Commercial Spyware

The Lawfare Podcast

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The Importance of Cooperation in Regulation

I want to finish our discussion with, we can call it, how do you get from here to there question? Because you point out that even something that's voluntary like Wassenar is a giant pain in the butt. So this should have that question of how it emerges. And then the second kind of maybe deeper question is why would people agree to this? Are we even so sure that the like-minded allies will all necessarily kind of come together? What's the incentive to cooperate here rather than just defect?

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