Speaker 2
I like to think that that's been my attitude in a lot of ways. I remember when I was working in radio, I started a side business and it was great turned out to be in a high set of great thing to do because a few years later, I would lose that job and need to fall back on that side business. But I was fascinated related to smartphones with with mobile apps. And so I decided I was going to dive into. Well, how do you do that? How does a mobile app come to be? And that led to me offering mobile apps as a service to local businesses in our area who at the time thought, well, that's not a space I can be in because I don't have the money for that. I can't possibly afford to have something like that built or have a mobile app for my for my business. And so that that was something that again I did for four or five years. I encourage people to do that sort of thing all the time. Many are afraid because they're like, well, what's my employer going to think or they think I'm moonlighting or this or that. I didn't worry about that, frankly, I'm not, I'm not suggesting that as advice. I just did it and thought, well, if they don't like it or they find out about it, I'm sure I'll hear about it. But I'm not going to worry about that because I'm not doing this on their time. I'm doing this on my time. And as far as I'm concerned, that's
Speaker 1
none of their business. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's so true. And that ties into a lot of different topics. But one of my friends, Nick Loper from the Side Hustle show, you know, he's that guy. That's how he started out is working a traditional job, super smart, super intelligent guy, and then just started pursuing some little sign hustles. And then that became what for him is not only a very successful business, but also helping a lot of other people do the same thing. That's exactly what I'm talking about. And when you think about people who are already maybe mid career or even getting later in their career, there's absolutely nothing that prevents you from applying these same principles. But just recognizing the seed is curiosity and an ability to perceive when you don't really understand something that might be helpful to understand. But the thing that prevents you is just fear. And it's actually surprisingly more often social fear than anything else. And that's what I dive into a lot. There's a lot of social pressures that want to keep people in their lanes. Like, hey, you're, you know, do HVAC, HVAC, boy, do radio radio boy, you know, that's what you do. You don't belong over here. And that's just not that's not good for us to put on our kids. It's not good for us to put on ourselves. You're going to, if you shotgun and you get curious about things, you're going to notice pretty quickly whether or not there's something in it for you, whether or not this actually has legs and you can run with it. And if not, give it up, move on to the next thing. That's fine. But it's absolutely possible that it may be something that becomes a huge part of your life like podcasting was for me. I mean, before we started this, we were nerd not on gear and the stuff that we used to do. And because we talked about this back in the day. And that's what led to not only possibilities in terms of podcasting and what I've created there, but also in terms of public speaking, getting comfortable talking, getting comfortable with your own voice, getting comfortable with, you know, all those things, getting comfortable with editing. I learned a lot of that from you. Those are things that now translate into a wide array of other possibilities that are now opened up because when the opportunity arose and I was interested in it, I didn't say that. I didn't say, well, but who can give me authorization? I wasn't looking around for social proof before I went ahead and just pursued what I was interested
