The Magnetism of the Mormon Religion

Dan O'Brien: I was just reading my reviews, which are mostly positive. And then I saw this one, sort of like a, you know, apologist hit on my book. He says Brian Hale's review is "pretty on the conservative slash fundamentalist side of Mormon apologetics" 'I bet you there's some faithful historians or scholars that also would probably disagree with Hale's review,' he adds. So we're going to look at his numbers because some of those numbers don't have any context,. They're just numbers and categories, and we're supposed to be intimidated by all of that, I guess.