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Episode 13: The Unmade

Cosmere Conversations

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The Heart of the Lumineer

"There is like the cave orgy in the second matrix, and half the world is like, we have no idea wha you're talking about, but it's totally fine. You're just dancing and feeling it," he says. "Just like lust and love and excitement and sweat and sex, and it's just all going on." He adds that this can go on in a relaively mild way for some people.

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