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I Don't Want to Fund Anything That Isn't Benefiting Me or Mine, Right?
"It's like everything feels so tenuous economically, societally in so many different ways that you have to be on the defensive," she says. "I think it requires some level of empathy to be able to go ... What would it be like if I were that person and let me think about it for a second and actually care?" She adds: "The pandemic kind of hastened whatever state we're in now."