The more people that you interact with, the more information ideas you could do to exchange and things of that nature. We as humans are very susceptible to the concept of the more time you spend with an individual the more that they take you. If you care nothing about the relationship in the long-term relationship with your children, parenting is actually straightforward. It's super dictatorial, super totalitarian. You can just stay whatever you want to get done. But if you don't care all about the person or all the people inside your organization, it's actually pretty straightforward. And I think those two things leveled me up throughout my career in various ways that are very hard to articulate but at the same