There's still plenty of creative people doing creative things because of technology and distribution the way it's set up now there are songs on Spotify that are fabulously creative. But you're algorithm very often and you gotta make it harder for people to find them. I seems huge amount more than ever in terms of, you know, just cheer volume. The average quality of our kind of popular songs is well, if not gone down, it's become kind of simpler and less emotionally complex.

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