"If the bad happens, you absolutely take credit. Like that is, that's on you," he says. "That's what it means by the risk piece of right? Handing off tat ownership is let that risk." 'It's hard for me to do,' Timothy Hagan admits in a new interview with Josh Gottlieb and Michael Wolraich. "'I don't ever want to manage people ever again', i'm not going to lie' He adds: 'You can't try to answer that question.'

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