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i was thinking back to all these radiolab episodes, patient zero ans one, we cover the origins of aids. And people say, ok, what o w. We have to do something on this? This is us? Or is this a thing that's too on the news that you would stay away from? You sure to have both thoughts at once, really. I mean, there's a lot of layers to this particular moment. Like there's the fact of the pandemic as its unfolding, and then there's everyone's reaction to it. It doesn't feel like the true vision of america right now. i think about it in terms of this also in terms of the
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