In this episode of The Leader's Journey Podcast, Jim Harrington sits down with pastor and coach Mac McCarthy to explore how emotional intelligence shapes the life of a leader and the health of a congregation. Together, they discuss what emotional intelligence truly means, why it's essential for spiritual formation, and how leaders can embody and cultivate it within their teams and churches. Through real stories and practical insight, they invite listeners to see emotional maturity as a lifelong journey of formation and courage.

Mac McCarthy is a coach with The Leader's Journey and the lead pastor of Crosspoint Community Church in the Milwaukee area. He has served in ministry since 2008 and is known for his thoughtful integration of emotional maturity, discipleship, and leadership development. Mac also hosts the Praxis podcast, where he explores faith and practice in everyday life.

Conversation Overview

Defining Emotional Intelligence and Why It Matters
Jesus as the Model of Emotional Maturity
Practicing What You Teach
From Learning to Practicing to Reflecting
Building Emotionally Intelligent Cultures
Creating Shared Language and Playful Learning
Leadership Practices for Growth
Navigating Conflict with Maturity
The Long Work of Formation
Encouragement for the Journey

Resources Mentioned

Giant Grandmother by Liu Maijia (audio)

Clarkesworld Magazine

Grandmother's Role: Cracking Life's Hard Shells

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