Max Tegmark and Dean Ball debate whether we should ban the development of superintelligence in a crossover episode from Doom Debates hosted by Liron Shapira. PSA for AI builders: Interested in alignment, governance, or AI safety? Learn more about the MATS Summer 2026 Fellowship and submit your name to be notified when applications open: https://matsprogram.org/s26-tcr. They unpack the Future of Life Institute's call for a moratorium until there is broad scientific consensus and public buy-in, contrasting Tegmark’s precautionary stance with Dean’s emphasis on experimentation, competition, and practical policy hurdles. Listeners will get clear takes on p(doom), the limits of FDA-style regulation, unilateral ban risks, and what safe, beneficial advanced AI might realistically look like.

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CHAPTERS:

(00:00) About the Episode

(05:43) Cold open and intro

(09:21) Opening statements: ban debate (Part 1)

(14:49) Sponsors: Framer | Agents of Scale

(17:11) Opening statements: ban debate (Part 2)

(17:11) Licensing-style AI regulation

(26:52) Liability, tail risks (Part 1)

(33:24) Sponsors: Tasklet | Shopify

(36:32) Liability, tail risks (Part 2)

(39:23) Timelines and precautionary regulation

(47:03) Defining superintelligence and risk

(52:26) Risk-based safety standards

(56:28) Current regulations and definitions

(01:05:23) Max's doom scenario

(01:19:46) P-doom gap and adaptation

(01:34:40) National security and China

(01:43:57) Closing statements and reflections

(01:55:22) Host debrief and outro

(02:02:10) Outro

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