Nate hagens: I've known chuck watson for about 15 years, when we used his damage interstructure maps on the oil drum dot com every time there was a hurricane that was threatening the oil and gas intrstructure in the gulf of mexico. Chuck has worked on risk in many fields related to civilization. And he pars his intelligence with wisdom, which is a trait that i really value. This episode surprised me because we ended up talking about a risk that most people don't talk about, which is geo politics and the increasing chance of a nuclear exchange. We hope you learned some things, as i did, about this increasingly important, underlying risk to our future

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