Anna Arismith: Porn is just part of what I would call a sort of silent sexual revolution that's going on. She disagrees with Jermaine saying that it didn't free people, but we have found in the last 10 to 15 years, women are getting more and more into swinging. A lot of it isn't for money. People just want to go to people and not making money out of this. It's not about money. Dogging is not pornography. Being involved in actual sexual activity is not porn. We're talking about the creation of a kind of literature, film, et cetera, etc. Things that one remove, that's what makes it safe.

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