The Story of a VC Moving Into Debt

CoVentures, $2 billion in AUM at this point is that funded warehouse facilities are committed capital. It's all committed to the market. And then we've got a few hundred million of venture capital as well. The reason I said soft, please come down from here you're like in the middle of New York at some point. We'll get to that part of the story in a second because he touches so many parts of the ecosystem that we play and so that sort of your VC quickly moving into debt.