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A Ukrainian Diplomat on the Future of Russian Aggression

The New Yorker Radio Hour

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Do You Count Your Crane as Wellding Your Crane?

Until two thousand 14, had this clear case of cognitive dissonance when it comes to foreign policy. We wanted to be with russia, but integrating to the west. And i can give you so many examples of this complacency of all of us that led us tow. Soer only after two thousand 14,. we finally got rid of this dissenants. If something made us willing to join nature so much, that's russia that personally put in. It was kind of a chaotic, a nos energy, you know.

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