"I would like to think you could be really good at what you do. Maybe not like some sort of objective, like the number one person," he says. "But that you could just be world class at something and do it because you like being world class at it." He adds: "Once you've proven enough of those things, I do catch myself going like, well, if I did this, then maybe I could just like slowly fade away or meaning like find balance in a different way"